Morning Brew: August 20th, 2007

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Your Toronto morning news roundup for Wednesday August 20th, 2008:

The Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) announced its full schedule yesterday. 312 films from 64 different countries will be shown on 36 screens (including the new AMC at Yonge-Dundas Square) over 10 days. And if you put all the red carpets that will be used end to end, they'd go to the moon and back 6509 times.

Toronto will soon have new, purple neighbours. Kyiv and Istanbul will flank us on the new world edition of Monopoly, which resulted from votes tallied on the internet. Montreal earned the coveted property that is Boardwalk, and Vancouver beat us too. Did our fellow Canadian cities have better campaigns, or do Torontonians just not give a funk about getting high rank on a board game?

Can it be?! The end of the condo boom in Toronto is near?! According to some condo market analysts, things will certainly be taking a downturn, but not necessarily crash.

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A new(ish) law in Ontario allows authorities to seize, and then give away or even sell the vehicles of those charged more than once with impaired driving. This one is sure to cause a stir amongst those that feel that the civil liberties of drunk drivers are being violated. But some will surely side with the civil liberties of the public, who deserve to be able to drive or walk our streets without being run over by a repeat drunk driver.

Thank goodness for razor wire and 10m tall walls. A failed prison break attempt at Kingston Penitentiary ended promptly last Friday, when two inmates made it onto the roof of the prison gym but tossed their homemade grappling hook into the razor wire on the wall.

And the 680news website finally got a much needed makeover. It's still pretty basic (which is good), but still seems rather chunky.

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Its about friggin time a law like this was passed. However, Im sure now we can expect another debate on how this violates the freedoms given to us under the constitution instead of looking at the law for what it truly is -- a deterrent for idiots who cant stop drinking and driving.

Posted by: A|Layton at August 20, 2008 8:55 AM

Hey, so long as it's a judge who determines that the punishment fits the crime, then I'm ok with it.

Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2008 9:14 AM

Yeah, if the person is convicted after being given a fair trial, then go for it: sell the car, revoke the license permanently, throw them in jail etc. Do you see how that's different from the street-racing law, where no trial takes place before punishment is dealt?

I don't understand why everyone is so quick to dismiss the constitution. It governs all other law, it defines our relationship with the government...don't be so quick to assume its irrelevance.

Posted by: guy lafleur at August 20, 2008 9:22 AM

It's about frigging time that 680 news got a makeover. My old user style doesn't work anymore though. Bastards.

Posted by: Ben at August 20, 2008 9:36 AM

What a ridiculous law, it's one thing to punish someone for their deeds but when they start making a profit from it it quickly becomes abused. War on Drugs/Terror anyone?

Posted by: Andrew at August 20, 2008 9:50 AM

Just bought my pass for the film festival. so freaking expensive.

Posted by: Munzz at August 20, 2008 9:51 AM

@Andrew: While, I can see your point, this punishment could be seen as something like a hefty fine. Monetary punishment shouldn't necessarily been seen as a profit for the government, however it's the price one must pay for breaking the law.

Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2008 9:53 AM

Here we go again!

I don't have time today to argue about the charter of rights and constitution, so instead I'll opt to talk about the new Monopoly game.

It's nice to see 3 Canadian cities on the board, but does this really represent the 'here and now'? Montreal as Boardwalk? Really? They've obviously decided that the voting was a good opportunity to figure out who to cater to, but I don't know if Montreal as Boardwalk is such a good idea.

It'll be popular with the people from Quebec for certain, but what about the rest of Canada? Will Torontonians want to pick up the game knowing that Montreal is the most valued property in the game? What about New Yorkers, population of close to 10 million? I think it'd be borderline offensive if I were a New Yorker. To make matters worse, 8 other people beat out New York, including the capital of Latvia as Park Place.

I can't imagine Latvia being a huge market, so it makes me wonder how this will affect sales.

Posted by: Ryan L. at August 20, 2008 10:02 AM

...I kinda wish some lazy RCMP cop would keep looking for that STILL UN-ACCOUNTED FOR $40-plus millions of the ADSCAM SCANDAL...

Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at August 20, 2008 10:05 AM

I wonder if the US housing market is starting to spill into Canada now?

Posted by: Go Toronto Card at August 20, 2008 10:14 AM

Ryan L. - ya gotta remember that we come from all over. I was looking down on the game but I'm 1/4 Latvian so you know, it's kinda cool that other people will learn a little about new places. Just like watching Latvians playing beach volleyball.

If they wanted to just go for size then it wouldn't have been an online vote and the top cities would have been:

1. Tokyo-Yokohama, Japan - 33,200,000
2. New York, United States - 17,800,000
3. Sao Paulo, Brazil - 17,700,000
4. Seoul-Incheon, South Korea - 17,500,000
5. Mexico City, Mexico - 17,400,000
6. Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto, Japan - 16,425,000
7. Manila, Philippines - 14,750,000
8. Mumbai, India (formerly Bombay) - 14,350,000
9. Jakarta, Indonesia - 14,250,000
10. Lagos, Nigeria - 13,400,000

Posted by: Lisa at August 20, 2008 10:26 AM

@Dave: I disagree, at least if the individual was paying a fine, he/she could sell their car to pay for it. Having the police take possession and then selling it for profit clearly is a conflict of interest and opens up a can of worms.

Posted by: Andrew at August 20, 2008 10:40 AM

http://www.hasbro.com/games/kid-games/monopoly/default.cfm?page=Worldvote/presscenter

Full list of the Monopoly spaces.

So that means Toronto is Virginia Avenue and Vancouver is New York Avenue.

I don't mind the configuration that much because when I play, those are the two groups of properties I aim to own anyways. In my opinion, despite their price tag, Toronto and Vancouver will be some of the best properties to own in the game. Gaining control of the orange and light purple properties is one of the easiest ways to take money from the other players.

Posted by: Ryan L. at August 20, 2008 11:02 AM

When Police departments issue fines, auction off items, they are hardly making profit on them. Nobody is making money. It goes into paying for the services that our taxes don't quite cover entirely. I'd rather the people who are breaking the law cover the cost of our police service than the people who abide by it in the form of taxes. This is especially true if you consider the cost of continuing to store seized materials.

If more of our taxes had to go into police services because fines didn't exist, I assure you a hell of a lot more people will take issue with it than the people who don't like the idea of police auctions. I imagine many people would also be angry if the department destroyed perfectly good seized items.

To be clear, this isn't me debating the issue of the seizure of cars. I don't have time to engage in endless arguments about that topic today. What the police do with fines/seized items is a separate issue.

Posted by: Ryan L. at August 20, 2008 11:37 AM

Montreal FTW bitches.

Also, selling off drunken fucktards' cars for the HUGE win ya drunken bitches.

Posted by: Ry Tron at August 20, 2008 11:58 AM

I see what you did there.

Posted by: binlazer at August 20, 2008 12:17 PM

@Ryan Police bureaucracy and inefficiency are to blame, not some image of poor and tattered officers trying to serve and protect. These blatant cash grabs (like planes to catch 'street racers' and enforcing illegal ticket quotas) are here to keep hiring the best lawyers to defend themselves from increasing lawsuits because of their baffling negligence for the people they're sworn to protect.

Posted by: Andrew at August 20, 2008 12:21 PM

As a Monopoly player, Montreal can have that spot for all I care, it's not a lucrative set to have. Sure it's a crusher but odds are against it. I go for the Rome-Vancouver and Beijing-Jerusalem sets ftw!

Posted by: Danielle at August 20, 2008 11:46 PM

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